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Hello everybody,

I have another question about the tinder sponge. I've already searched the whole forum (I wasn't lazy) and read it all through. I have also read through many websites. But nowhere was it really clear whether it only works with one mushroom or with others. And maybe you can recommend a page on which a cross-section of the tinder fungus is shown and on which all layers are described? I've only discovered bad sides. And how does the so-called scale layer get off the lamellas ??? Here is the sentence from a book: The tinder sponge is cut off with a knife, the upper hard layer is cut off. Then the felt-like scale layer has to be cut loose from the lower lamellas. "
How do you go about this, and how do you get the scale layer so that it behaves like a piece, that is, like a cloth can lie on a board to be pounded soft ???
So many questions that are very sad when they don't get their partner, the answer.

MfG, Bowhunter

Oh, do you just have to direct the sparks onto the tinder sponge so that it glows? And how long does the tinder have to dry?

Again: MfG from the far north :)

Yes, thank you first for the good answers. But one thing is still a little unclear to me. Do you have to let the tinder 4-6mon dry on the heater?
If so, how did the Neanderthals do it?
And to your answer, put the lamellas in a can, I think I've read something about it. There I put the scraps of cotton in an aluminum can and bored a hole in it and put it in the fire. When it has stopped smoking, you take the can out of the fire and stick a toothpick into the hole, then mna waits. This is how they made tinder.

And how thick is the trama layer exactly? And how do you get the best separated from the rest? Today I went to the Wasl and found a few pests on a dead birch. I immediately put it in a bag and pocketed it. But working on it is much harder than expected. Firstly, I didn't really like the Trama shciht. If I have thought and acted correctly, the trama layer is only 2mm thick. Is it correct that way?
Second, I barely got the bark off with a knife. How can it be easier? The tinder floated seems to me to be a philosopher in itself.
Oh, how big are your trama "lobes" that you work on?

Kind regards

Alternatively, could the tinder be dried in the oven? And does that also work with other mushrooms that look like the formen formentus (or something), or is that only possible with this one?

Ok, then I know now!
IV

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The common tinder fungus (Fomes fomentarius) has several typical characteristics
on:
• Fruiting bodies: perennial, console-shaped or hoof-shaped, very hard and broad
Wood grown up to 50 centimeters wide and a thickness as well as one
Radius of up to 25 centimeters.
• Surface (crust): even, bumpy to bumpy, fox-like brown when young,
later light gray, with age dark gray to almost black, with red-yellow or gray-pink,
bulbous concentric growth zones (1 to 2 per year) with whitish
Edge; Underside flat, porous, cream-colored to light ocher when young, brownish when old.
• Mycelial core: at the point of attachment to the wood is inside the mushroom fruit body
the characteristic, lumpy marbled, brownish-white,
Crumbly brittle mycelial core with a diameter of up to 10 centimeters.
• Tubes: brownish, clearly stratified vertically, up to 0.8 inches long and
firmly grown together. In each growing season there is a tube layer
newly formed, so that the entire tube substance consists of a larger one
Number of layers (up to 12 centimeters
thick).
• Pulp (Trama): Under the hard
Crust, around the mycelial nucleus and around the
The tube layer is the actual,
sterile trama (see sketch). From this
yellow-brown, tough tough fibers
Trama layer (of crust and tube layer
freed) the tinder is produced.
• Smell: pleasantly mushroom-like.
• Taste: bitter.
• Determination: An important determinant
of the mushroom is the im
Cut black shiny, tough, up
2 millimeter thick crust (see sketch) that charred in the fire without first being
melt. Dip a small cut of the crust into a drop
Potash lye, a dark blood-red solution is created - in case of doubt a safe one
Distinguishing feature of this mushroom.

Medicinal plant used in folk medicine

* The fungus is very effective for mushroom poisoning with gastroenteritic and hepatic symptoms.
* It is also appropriate for digestive disorders.
* Tinder sponge has a hemostatic effect, it contains betulin.
The hemostatic "wound sponges" used to be sold in pharmacies
(these sponges were only washed and dried,
the lye treatment failed).




Homeopathy:
The tinder sponge is still used today
Powers of 10 and 100

Use for:


* Diarrhea with yellowish stool, phlegm
* Ulcerative colitis in the rectum
* Forehead headache triggered by digestive problems
* Gallbladder problems
* Hepatitis caused by poison, painful, especially on the right lobe
* Exhaustion with a tendency to faint
* Means in the morning in potencies of 10 or 100, for diet-related symptoms of intoxication or due to infections
* for chronic liver and digestive problems


You can find detailed and further information in the book:
Modern mycotherapy (fungal medicine)
by Prof. Dr. Med. Ivo Bianchi,
The use of mushrooms in medicine,
ISBN: 9783000258800

Source: Health Messenger

Wow, I didn't even know that it was so healthy. Is really amazing!
If you are 100 percent familiar with nature, you really don't need anything anymore, almost everything can be used, you just have to know how. And now I find that with the sponge really amazing!

Hello Bowhunter.

If you want to "harvest" tinder sponges, only take as many as you need and especially younger ones who do not yet have a large umbrella, because the larger the umbrella, the smaller / thinner the layer of tinder!
And another tip! Before you harvest the mushroom, make sure you can push the cap in. If the cap is hard, there isn't a lot of scale, but if you can push it in, the mushroom will provide you with some scale material. ;)
If you want to process the mushroom, do it fresh, the drier the mushroom, the harder it will be. : mad:
The mushroom is only ready for use when you have freed it from the surrounding material, then carefully stretch and stretch it (everything in its naturally fresh state).
Stretching will significantly increase the surface area.
After that, you could just put the tinder in your pocket and let your body heat dry it.
The tinder no longer needs any further processing - it is now ready for use.

I hope I could help.

G.Y.

No, I've only taken 2 pieces so far;). But also helped me a lot :)!

Last year I found something on a hike that looks like a tinder sponge.
Take a look at the pictures and please tell me whether this is one or not.
I am not entirely sure.

Ok, I just took some of the sponge I cut into slices last year and cut out the layer of scale.
Pulled over it a few times with the fire steel and lo and behold, it is glowing. So it's a tinder sponge after all.

The little glowing piece (Zunderschisch) has been glowing for about 3 minutes.

it is good to know what a tinder sponge can be used for. I haven't done anything with one myself. is probably because I just don't get "warm" with him. there are so many other ways to use something as tinder ...
when I see one ... "oh nice, look there" but that's about it. just not my thing.

I collected the tinder sponge to swap and I cut one of them to see how it works.
Otherwise, of course, I prefer birch bark from DEAD birch trees.

So I think tinder sponge is just great! Since I somehow never manage to ignite hay or birch bark with the embers from firing, I use a tinder sponge.
I cut the tube layer triangularly so that I ignite the tip and then the embers get bigger and bigger due to the increase in area and volume. Then it is a small problem to ignite more hay or birch bark etc.

So far I have only removed a medium sponge. At a point where 18 others are growing much larger. Plus on a private space. a mushroom is very productive. They are still very well represented in my region.
I'm only writing this now because of nature conservation. However, it cannot really be clarified whether it should not be removed now or at least.
He's probably on a G3 list, I don't know what exactly that has to do with it.
So nature conservation ??? Or something in between? Maybe someone will enlighten me.
Everything in the truest sense of the word a vague term.

I will deal more with cattail seeds in the future. Does anyone happen to know whether the method with the two boards between which you roll a cotton wool / charcoal mixture also works instead of cotton wool with cattail seeds? Or with dandelion seeds?

Bulrush is protected from. Last year I wanted to collect some from my parents nearby, but there was a sign that said it was protected and that it should not be picked.

some say the cattail is protected. but where does the florist get his goods from?
In some cases, it is only protected where it is not found in abundance. and maybe it is the same with the tinder sponges. ???

I now lean far out of the window and claim that the cattail is only protected when it grows in a nature reserve / natural monument. because the entire flora & fauna is protected & it then automatically falls under it.
if it were threatened with extinction, it would not knowingly be used for water purification or for natural house insulation. In addition, I have not yet learned of any rescue project that it is planted everywhere on streams, lakes, rivers and the like with a lot of effort / overall it is something like that.

Look here, it says that the small cattail is definitely protected in Germany. That means, not only in the nature reserve but even in your own garden. http://www. Pflanzen-deutschland.de/Typha_minima.html

The same applies to Shuttleworths bulrushes http://www.lubw.baden-wuerttemberg.de/servlet/is/36479/rote_liste_farn_samen Pflanzen.pdf?command=download Content & filename = rote_liste_farn_samen Pflanzen.pdf

Also in Austria http://www.donauauen.at/?area=nature&subarea=flora&category=herbs&story_id=190

Just using plants that you know are not protected or threatened with extinction.

If I read the list correctly, it is Typha latifolia, the broad-leaved cattail.

Last year I found something on a hike that looks like a tinder sponge.
Take a look at the pictures and please tell me whether this is one or not.
I am not entirely sure.

Hi Bushcraft.

Bingo - all tinder sponge.

Just like I said above, if you're outside and find tinder fungi, do the pressure test.
If the outer hard layer can be pressed in a little, this suggests a thicker layer of scale, if not, leave the fungus where it is.
Usually smaller, younger tinder fungi can be easily pressed in.
Just give it a try.
!And! Always process the mushroom in the "forest-moist" state, because the layers around the tinder marerial can be optimally removed (knife) and the tinder layer optimally pulled (widened), which creates a fluffy material = ready for use when dry.

Here are two links where you can see a cap and a hat made of tinder sponge:
http://www.123pilze.de/DreamHC/Download/Zunderschwamm.htm
http://www.feuer-steinzeit.de/ressourcen/zunder.php

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