Why are electricians paid so well
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Hello everyone What does an electrician for energy and building technology who is employed in industry earn. In the hour or what do you mean what a reasonable hourly wage is. Greetings manu
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Depending on the state, company and collective agreement, you can look forward to € 13 to € 18. For a 40-hour week that is between 2236, - and 3096, - € gross. In the case of shift or night work, there may be surcharges.
Electrician = Knock Schlitz for a lousy salary. I advise against it!
Jubi wrote:> Electrician = knock Schlitz for a lousy salary.> I advise against! I thought craftsmen earn so incredibly well compared to engineers !!!
> Schlitz knock for a lousy salary. I thought there were machines for that now ...
Amateur wrote: >> Knock Schlitz for a lousy salary. >> I thought there are machines for that now ... Nope, that's why there are electricians who are much cheaper than such a machine.
Heyhey wrote:> Jubi wrote: >> Electrician = knocking the slot for a lousy salary. >> I advise against! >> I thought craftsmen earn so incredibly well compared to> engineers !!! 1111einself He asked for the industry that pay worse than the craft, but there are seldom 'knocked' slots. But if you consider that a craftsman's hour is between 35.00 and 50.00, even a good journeyman will not get more than 20.00 to 23.00. But the job is more demanding and more independence is expected.
Crafts earn more than industry? Dream on .. In some companies unskilled workers sometimes get € 15-18 an hour, even if you see them yourself.
Crank wrote:> In some companies, unskilled workers sometimes get 15-18 € an hour,> seen it themselves. In other companies, unskilled workers sometimes get € 5-8 an hour, I've heard myself. Oh man, these mindless people here.
both are correct. At the OEMs, even holiday jobbers get 18 euros an hour + shift allowances. Of course, more permanent workers. E.g. the well-known professional group of "door rubber knockers" (TM). But there is also some temporary work where only 8-8.50 an hour is paid for the same work.
> Crank wrote:> Unskilled workers sometimes get 15-18 € an hour, seen for themselves. Wore welding goggles?
Gray wrote:> But there is also some temporary work where the same> work is only paid 8-8.50 an hour. One cannot expect any other way from these pimps that they attack the difference. After all, opportunity makes thieves. ; -b
oh man oh man, like at the fair here, no in-depth knowledge and basics ...> Enter collective agreements for electrical hardware in the search engine and off you go, or is it Christmas today? or make a wish http://www.hwk-dresden.de/Servicangebot/Beratung/Recht/ArbeitsundSozialrecht/Mindestlouml;hneimHandwerk/MindestlohnimElektrohandwerk/tabid/288/Default.aspx From January 1, 2014, the following minimum wages apply in the electrical trade: Brandenburg, Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania, Saxony, Saxony-Anhalt, Thuringia from January 1, 2014 EUR 9.10 from January 1, 2015 EUR 10.00 at workplaces in the other federal states from January 1, 2015 EUR 9.35 from January 1 2015 EUR 10.10 The collective minimum wage applicable at the respective place of work applies. But yes, of course> from 13, - Euro upwards, some would like to have it, and that's exactly how the work performance of these dream dancers looks like then one would also like something clever, says the AG and has every right to keep wages down
Jodlerfred wrote:> From January 1, 2014, the following minimum wages will apply in the electrical trade: Yes, eastern wages. Western wages are a little better. The chambers of crafts represent the interests of the companies and are therefore not credible. The trained packer at Amazon or the shelf filler at Lidl also earns 10 euros. A TRAINED electrician earned a better income, after all, the job is also dangerous, if not to say life-threatening. Of course, it also depends on professional experience.
by Cha-woma M. (Company: --------------) (cha-ar-196)
Electrician wrote:> A TRAINED electrician earned a better income, right! > after all, the job is also dangerous, well, the liver of a real electrician can take a lot! > not to say life threatening. We all only live "once" so don't overdo it! > Of course, it also depends on professional experience. I have to fit in there, I'm not a bon vivant! But about the salary: When a maintenance technician for the press shop at BMW in R receives € 19 per hour from the rental company. Shouldn't the craftsman get any less! So 19h per hour, or you go straight to the personnel service provider!
Cha-woma M. wrote:> If a maintenance technician for the press shop at BMW in R receives> 19, - € per hour from the rental company. Should the craftsman probably also not> get less!> So 19h per hour, or you go straight to the personnel service provider! Agreed, but unfortunately not everyone lives and works there, partly for personal, partly for purely material reasons, because life there is also more expensive (especially with accommodation) and not too scarce. Therefore, in addition to an allegedly well-paid job, the companies usually do not offer accommodation at the same time. Those are obstacles. In addition, there is also a lack of responsibility in the companies and therefore many will consider changing the risk from relatively stable conditions to insecure ones. Jodlerfred wrote:> And this is exactly what the work of these dream dancers looks like. If a master craftsman desires performance according to his taste, then he must also provide appropriate instruction and education, because it is not the same everywhere, even if it should be the same everywhere. As a rule, they pass the problem on to training instead of ensuring constant quality and quantity themselves. I had to do my training in three companies. The first went bankrupt due to commercial ineptitude, the second only needed a cheap henchman and the third was not of the same quality as the first, and made insufficient effort.
Cha-woma M. wrote:> So 19h per hour, or you go straight to the personnel service provider! rofl "Wessis" really have this idea, I've seen it myself: P Goods to a customer in BaWü who asked: What do you actually earn, 20 euros, right? I said to him: Sure, the two of us together;)
by Cha-woma M. (Company: --------------) (cha-ar-196)
Ossi wrote:> 20 euros, right? I said to him: Sure, the two of us> together;) He assessed you correctly!
@ Electrician, reading and understanding is not your forte, or what do you not understand by? > At workplaces in the other federal states from January 1, 2015 EUR 9.35 from January 1, 2015 EUR 10.10 you talk about dangerous, go into politics, because you are probably of no use to work, your wisdom can be used Present to the future client during the interview, but you will be thanked for leaving immediately! can you do that> If a master craftsman wants performance to suit his taste, then he must> provide appropriate instruction and education, because>> it is not the same everywhere, even if it should be the same everywhere. explain in detail? to the drama of your training, thank the politicians, that is, among other things, their department, because at the IHK or HWK you don't even have to compete, they protect your sw sheep successfully! Author: Ossi (guest) Date: 02/14/2014 21:07 your story> What do you actually earn, 20 euros, right? Standing ovations, unfortunately the bitter seriousness, and with 10, - Euro you can still be grateful to the AG> exploiter for eternity ... but you should already be able to adjust your work performance to the L (H) ohn, at the minimum wage there is only minimum performance Everyone makes mistakes, especially the bosses with their aloof ideas @ Cha-woma M. your penny has not yet fallen! the wall in your head is still there?
Cha-woma M. wrote:> He assessed you correctly! Nope, he was just wrong, just like you, you Laberkopp. In no way do I want to initiate an East / West discussion here. That was just a contribution from the category "Stories that life writes". In any case, you couldn't (survive) live here, at most as a Harzer. Jodlerfred wrote:> But one should already be able to adapt one's work performance to the L (H) ohn,> for the minimum wage there is only minimum performance, everyone makes mistakes, especially> the bosses with their aloof ideas Far from it. I enjoy my job and we are a young, motivated group that brings in 110% every day (for Wessis - 210%). Why should I want to harm my Scheff, strange attitude ..
@ Ossi, somehow I don't really understand you, or were you just fooling up there? > Far from it. I enjoy my job and we are a young, motivated group> as far as I can follow you, should be like that> which brings in 110% daily (for Wessis - 210%). I also understand that with the east-west performance comparison> Why should I want to harm my Scheff, strange attitude .. then it was probably just a little joke above, with the 20, - € p. Hours for two of you? You can do without such know-it-alls and know-it-alls where there is something in terms of money, experience has shown that you can not use such types for work
Who did you have this experience with? I think it's really just prejudice. This is how it works HERE. The wages are just like that, you posted yourself. The work still has to be done, only the grumbling does not finish. And I've seen enough pipes on construction sites in the west.
It depends a lot on how well someone can understand system technology. I have 2 colleagues in the company who come from the trade and currently have ERA8 (NRW) or already ERA9, I don't know exactly. In addition, there is the performance bonus of about 10% then n hourly wages of about 16.39 € -17.71 € (about 2750-3000 € gross at 35h week plus shift surcharges, overtime ...
Cha-woma M. wrote:> If a maintenance technician for the press shop at BMW in R receives> 19, - € per hour from the rental company. Technician? It is incomprehensible that such people are not permanently employed. At the Regensburg plant, more than half of the employees in production are external employees, some of them employed by the suppliers' assembly companies. Most of them, however, are temporary workers who work as production assistants and earn € 8.20 gross.
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